I wanted to start a thread based on my recent experience with car gas.
I'm not out in Ada, OK, and got worried when I saw that the local Wal-
Mart gas station sells ethanol gas. This is no good for Anna, so I did
some research with my coworkers and found 2 gas stations in Ada that
sell ethanol free car gas.

The Philips 66 on Main and Latta Road, out by the Richardson Loop. The
"Chickasaw" gas station. And also one of the 2 gas stations on
Broadway between Richardson Loop and Main. Don't know which one
though.

Anybody know of any places near Raleigh, NC with ethanol free gas?
Also post your own findings for those of us still flying true cross
countries.

> wrote in message
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>I wanted to start a thread based on my recent experience with car gas.
> I'm not out in Ada, OK, and got worried when I saw that the local Wal-
> Mart gas station sells ethanol gas. This is no good for Anna, so I did
> some research with my coworkers and found 2 gas stations in Ada that
> sell ethanol free car gas.
>
> The Philips 66 on Main and Latta Road, out by the Richardson Loop. The
> "Chickasaw" gas station. And also one of the 2 gas stations on
> Broadway between Richardson Loop and Main. Don't know which one
> though.
>
> Anybody know of any places near Raleigh, NC with ethanol free gas?
> Also post your own findings for those of us still flying true cross
> countries.

I really don't understand your logic here. What good is it going to do you
on a "true cross country" if Joe's gas station sells ethanol free gas? I
don't think Joe is going to deliver and the FBO will probably frown on
loading up the crew car with gas cans. Also, just because Joe bought his
gas at the ethanol free terminal this week, doesn't mean he won't buy his
gas from a 10% ethanol terminal next week. It's best to buy or make your
own test kit and test a sample before you buy.

Just check Airnav for mogas in the area in which you're concerned. W90
seems to be the closest airport that has it.

Mike > wrote:

> I really don't understand your logic here. What good is it going to do you
> on a "true cross country" if Joe's gas station sells ethanol free gas? I
> don't think Joe is going to deliver and the FBO will probably frown on
> loading up the crew car with gas cans.

I frequent two airports on a regular basis. At one I've got a hangar and
at the other I keep a beat up airport car with 4 gas cans in the trunk.

> Also, just because Joe bought his
> gas at the ethanol free terminal this week, doesn't mean he won't buy his
> gas from a 10% ethanol terminal next week. It's best to buy or make your
> own test kit and test a sample before you buy.

Yup, just the added hassle of auto fuel. Still worth it to me. I've been
using it since 80 octane disappeared. The price is certainly more
attractive, but my engine just runs better on it.

> Just check Airnav for mogas in the area in which you're concerned. W90
> seems to be the closest airport that has it.

Of the two airports I mentioned above, one has no reported mogas within 100
miles and the other one has it at an airport 90 miles beyond it. I've
been known to go out of my way for cheap gas, but that seems excessive.

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Boise, ID

"Frank Stutzman" > wrote in message
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> Mike > wrote:
>
>> I really don't understand your logic here. What good is it going to do
>> you
>> on a "true cross country" if Joe's gas station sells ethanol free gas? I
>> don't think Joe is going to deliver and the FBO will probably frown on
>> loading up the crew car with gas cans.
>
> I frequent two airports on a regular basis. At one I've got a hangar and
> at the other I keep a beat up airport car with 4 gas cans in the trunk.
>
>> Also, just because Joe bought his
>> gas at the ethanol free terminal this week, doesn't mean he won't buy his
>> gas from a 10% ethanol terminal next week. It's best to buy or make your
>> own test kit and test a sample before you buy.
>
> Yup, just the added hassle of auto fuel. Still worth it to me. I've been
> using it since 80 octane disappeared. The price is certainly more
> attractive, but my engine just runs better on it.
>
>> Just check Airnav for mogas in the area in which you're concerned. W90
>> seems to be the closest airport that has it.
>
> Of the two airports I mentioned above, one has no reported mogas within
> 100
> miles and the other one has it at an airport 90 miles beyond it. I've
> been known to go out of my way for cheap gas, but that seems excessive.

If you get enough people together, you might be able to set up your own tank
and have it delivered. I know people who have done that. The problems you
run into is auto fuel doesn't keep long and fuel tank laws vary from state
to state. Delivery charges can eat up your savings also unless you have a
lot delivered, which is why you generally need several people to go in
together to make it work.

wrote:
> I wanted to start a thread based on my recent experience with car gas.
> I'm not out in Ada, OK, and got worried when I saw that the local Wal-
> Mart gas station sells ethanol gas. This is no good for Anna, so I did
> some research with my coworkers and found 2 gas stations in Ada that
> sell ethanol free car gas.
>
> The Philips 66 on Main and Latta Road, out by the Richardson Loop. The
> "Chickasaw" gas station. And also one of the 2 gas stations on
> Broadway between Richardson Loop and Main. Don't know which one
> though.
>
> Anybody know of any places near Raleigh, NC with ethanol free gas?
> Also post your own findings for those of us still flying true cross
> countries.


A USENET thread is really not a good way to do this. It is going to take
a well managed website. The hardest part will be the fact that those
stations selling ethanol free gas could have ethanol when they get their
next delivery.

On Jul 25, 9:34*pm, "Mike" > wrote:

I believe the EAA sells a sampling cup that detects any alcohols in
fuel. I assume you could use that to verify the claim of any
particular station.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
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> On Jul 25, 9:34 pm, "Mike" > wrote:
>
> I believe the EAA sells a sampling cup that detects any alcohols in
> fuel. I assume you could use that to verify the claim of any
> particular station.
>
> -Robert

Exactly, but all you need is one of those sporty's fuel testers and a cork.
Or you could use a rain gauge, a test tube, or just about any clear vessel
that can be corked (preferably with a lid or a rubber cork). Baby jars work
fine, although I prefer a tall narrow vessel. Just draw a line an inch off
the bottom or so with a permanent marker, fill with water to the line, add
twice as much fuel, cork it, shake the hell out of it, stand it upright and
wait 5 minutes. Any alcohol present will combine with the water and settle
to the bottom. If it exceeds the line you have alcohol in the fuel.

"Mike" > wrote in message news:U93kk.439$wS4.102@trnddc03...
> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Jul 25, 9:34 pm, "Mike" > wrote:
>>
>> I believe the EAA sells a sampling cup that detects any alcohols in
>> fuel. I assume you could use that to verify the claim of any
>> particular station.
>>
>> -Robert
>
> Exactly, but all you need is one of those sporty's fuel testers and a cork.
> Or you could use a rain gauge, a test tube, or just about any clear vessel
> that can be corked (preferably with a lid or a rubber cork). Baby jars work
> fine, although I prefer a tall narrow vessel. Just draw a line an inch off
> the bottom or so with a permanent marker, fill with water to the line, add
> twice as much fuel, cork it, shake the hell out of it, stand it upright and
> wait 5 minutes. Any alcohol present will combine with the water and settle
> to the bottom. If it exceeds the line you have alcohol in the fuel.
>
>

And the 5 minutes is pretty long. It is amazing how fast it shows up, results for me are pretty much right now...

"Blueskies" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike" > wrote in message
> news:U93kk.439$wS4.102@trnddc03...
>> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Jul 25, 9:34 pm, "Mike" > wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe the EAA sells a sampling cup that detects any alcohols in
>>> fuel. I assume you could use that to verify the claim of any
>>> particular station.
>>>
>>> -Robert
>>
>> Exactly, but all you need is one of those sporty's fuel testers and a
>> cork. Or you could use a rain gauge, a test tube, or just about any clear
>> vessel that can be corked (preferably with a lid or a rubber cork). Baby
>> jars work fine, although I prefer a tall narrow vessel. Just draw a line
>> an inch off the bottom or so with a permanent marker, fill with water to
>> the line, add twice as much fuel, cork it, shake the hell out of it,
>> stand it upright and wait 5 minutes. Any alcohol present will combine
>> with the water and settle to the bottom. If it exceeds the line you have
>> alcohol in the fuel.
>>
>
> And the 5 minutes is pretty long. It is amazing how fast it shows up,
> results for me are pretty much right now...

You can tell pretty quickly if it does have alcohol, although I've heard you
really need to wait a few minutes if you want to figure out the percentage.
I'm not sure how much difference it makes. Any alcohol is too much as far
as I'm concerned.

A little off topic here, but you just gave me a great original idea
(measuring ethanol content in gas) to encourage my child to adopt for a
science project.
Steve
> wrote in message
...
>I wanted to start a thread based on my recent experience with car gas.
> I'm not out in Ada, OK, and got worried when I saw that the local Wal-
> Mart gas station sells ethanol gas. This is no good for Anna, so I did
> some research with my coworkers and found 2 gas stations in Ada that
> sell ethanol free car gas.
>
> The Philips 66 on Main and Latta Road, out by the Richardson Loop. The
> "Chickasaw" gas station. And also one of the 2 gas stations on
> Broadway between Richardson Loop and Main. Don't know which one
> though.
>
> Anybody know of any places near Raleigh, NC with ethanol free gas?
> Also post your own findings for those of us still flying true cross
> countries.